Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Ebensee concentration camp prisoners 1945 (cropped).jpg
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File:Ebensee concentration camp prisoners 1945 (cropped).jpg, not featured
[edit]Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 27 Aug 2020 at 06:34:06 (UTC)
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- Info created by Lt. Arnold E. Samuelson - uploaded by Andrei Kurbyko - nominated by Andrew J.Kurbiko -- Andrei (talk) 06:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Support -- Andrei (talk) 06:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Support --Wilfredor (talk) 12:42, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose on technical grounds. Highlights on the heads and the arm in the center are totally blown out in a way that looks like an artifact of bad digitization or editing rather than a problem with the original negative. One of the few technical advantages of film over digital has always been the smoother transition from very bright highlights to plain white ("highlight roll off"). (That's because the emulsion's response to an increasing amount of photons is logarithmic, not linear like today's digitral sensors). This has very sharp edges betwen dark midtones and blown-out areas — something you might get on film from a reflective surface in direct sunlight, but not from human skin under the soft light we have here. This does not look like a faithful digital reproduction of the analog original to me. --El Grafo (talk) 12:55, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Update: confirmed by the version available at archives.gov that does not have this problem (direct image link), identical to the first version of the the un-cropped file. Which also means that the given source for the second version of the un-cropped file (upon which the candidate is based) is probably wrong (i.e. was not updated when it was uploaded). --El Grafo (talk) 12:59, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Info i tried to improve it with my basic skills File:Ebensee concentration camp prisoners 1945 (1).jpg, but not sure if went in a proper direction --Andrei (talk) 09:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- You smoothed out the edges by brightening other areas as well. That does indeed look better as it somewhat hides the problem, but it doesn't really solve it. Unfortunately, there is no way to get back the data that was lost when the highlights were blown out (looks like someone increased the contrast, as the shadows are also crushed much more than in the archives.gov scan). The only way to properly adress the issue is to find a high quality scan of the negative (or a good print) that hasn't been edited like that. --El Grafo (talk) 08:30, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Info i tried to improve it with my basic skills File:Ebensee concentration camp prisoners 1945 (1).jpg, but not sure if went in a proper direction --Andrei (talk) 09:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Update: confirmed by the version available at archives.gov that does not have this problem (direct image link), identical to the first version of the the un-cropped file. Which also means that the given source for the second version of the un-cropped file (upon which the candidate is based) is probably wrong (i.e. was not updated when it was uploaded). --El Grafo (talk) 12:59, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Abstain A powerful and really horrifying image. I will vote as soon as the issue pointed out by El Grafo is resolved, because we should try to promote the best possible version. Cmao20 (talk) 23:07, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Neutral pending resolution of highlight issue. Daniel Case (talk)
- Oppose per El Grafo. --Fischer.H (talk) 16:51, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- I withdraw my nomination, for now. Thank you!--Andrei (talk) 10:07, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 2 support, 2 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /--A.Savin 14:01, 27 August 2020 (UTC)