Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Perereca-macaco - Phyllomedusa rohdei.jpg
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- Info created and uploaded by Renato Augusto Martins - nominated by Arion -- 😄 ArionEstar 😜 (talk) 01:35, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support -- 😄 ArionEstar 😜 (talk) 01:35, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support -- Johann Jaritz (talk) 02:44, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Wow. --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 02:53, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Pine✉ 05:02, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 06:07, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Daphne Lantier 06:43, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Wow! factor and HEV. Jacopo Werther iγ∂ψ=mψ 07:05, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support -- Wolf im Wald 07:07, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --LivioAndronico (talk) 07:28, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Berthold Werner (talk) 07:30, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:59, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Ermell (talk) 08:19, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Yes! I'm glad we got the original (larger) file for this after some debate on QIC since it is such a great photo. Renato Augusto Martins has uploaded so many great photos and I hope we will se more of them here. Love this for example. --cart-Talk 08:21, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Mile (talk) 08:27, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Can I admit be being VERY JEALOUS! Roll on POTY. Charles (talk) 09:17, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support--Peulle (talk) 09:31, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Strong Support What is this I'm smelling? Another POTY? What the.. We just had the ravens win POTY few months ago... ★Poyekhali 10:24, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Comment I thought the ravens photo had weak compostion. It only won because they looked funny. PumpkinSky talk 23:42, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Great! --Yann (talk) 11:58, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --The Photographer 12:27, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Cayambe (talk) 15:58, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Question Was the photo taken wildlife or were the frogs in a terrarium or anything else? What a background is this and why is it that (equable) dark? --Hockei (talk) 17:39, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Comment Sensible questions. I just assumed it was a wildlife photo like this other one File:Cuíca - Marmosa paraguayana.jpg. Charles (talk) 21:41, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Evening, f/22 and background objects far away can leads to a black bg. EXIF says no flash used; but there may be other artificial light sources. Jee 11:59, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Comment Very good photo, but I have to wonder along the lines of Hockei. The background doesn't look like it's in the wild, more like a terrarium with a black wall or something. That's not a natural position for either frog so it looks like a posed shot to me. I wish the uploader would explain more about this photo.PumpkinSky talk 23:42, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Hockei, Charlesjsharp, and PumpkinSky: Like Jee said, it's totally possible to do that in the wild. This one was taken outside at the place where the plant was growing using only natural light without any kind of modification – just sunlight on the subject and shadows in the background. It's even easier with flash lighting at the bottom of a dark rainforest (and if you look at the catchlight in the eye it's obvious that some kind of artificial lighting was used here). --El Grafo (talk) 12:19, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- How you could learn to a non intelligent animal to do a pose? --The Photographer 03:32, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- @The Photographer: You can't. But you can force them. This was going around the photographic community a few years ago: Photo Analysis Accuses Some Photogs of Faking Cute Animal Photos in Cruel Ways (Petapixel), The Sad Truth Behind Those Fantastic Frog Photos (original blog post). Not saying this is the case here, but it certainly has a bit of a "too good to be true" kind of taste for me. The other uploads of the user look perfectly legitimate for me though. --El Grafo (talk) 12:14, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
OpposeAs long my questions are not honest convincing answered from the photographer that this is wildlife. For me it looks like a circus act in a terrarium. --Hockei (talk) 16:25, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Wow! --PierreSelim (talk) 18:19, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Strong support A winner in so many ways ... Daniel Case (talk) 19:04, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Not bad :) - Benh (talk) 20:09, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:14, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Biplab Anand (Talk) 08:03, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support. This looks like a fight between two males for a territory (resource defense); but I'm not sure. [1], [2], [3] Jee 11:54, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
* Oppose Just until we hear from the photographer. Better to be safe than support an image which might be suspect. There is a photographer of the name Renato Augusto Martins on Flickr. His images are all watermarked and this one is not there. May not be significant, but seems odd. Charles (talk) 13:14, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
Info Olá a todos, muito obrigado pelas mensagens e dúvidas.Tentarei esclarecer todos os pontos questionados. Sim, o animal é selvagem e de vida livre. A técnica utilizada para este tipo de imagem com fundo preto é muito simples, no entanto muito trabalhosa. Como já citado anteriormente pelo colega, no EXIF da foto é possível observar o f/22 oque seria bem alto! com o primeiro plano bem iluminado e o segundo plano na sombra ou escuro, conseguimos deixar o fundo bem preto. Aliado a isso, podemos observar na imagem que praticamente não existe sombra nos anfíbios, essa é a parte mais difícil da fotografia! Não aparece informações no EXIF sobre a fonte de luz, pois utilizo um flash externo, acoplado em um rádio flash. Apenas isso já bastaria para um fundo preto, mas para não ter sombra na imagem eu utilizei 3 rebatedores de luz, tornando a luz suave e agradável! A posição dos anfíbios são completamente naturais em seu habitat. Sobre tudo a Clado Phyllomedusidae, apresenta espécies que andam devagar e saltam pouco, na foto em questão, um macho disputa o galho com outro macho, ao passar por cima dele, um anfíbio se abaixa como forma de defesa em quanto o outro atravessa, tudo isso durou cerca de 4 segundos, tornando a imagem ainda mais desafiadora! Espero ter ajudado, estou sempre disponível para mais esclarecimentos. Renato Augusto Martins (talk) 16:21, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Thanks for your explanations, Renato Augusto Martins, I feel comfortable to support now. --El Grafo (talk) 16:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support The one below is thinking "This must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursday." -- Colin (talk) 17:47, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 18:03, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support I don't speak Portuguese and goggle translation is horrible. But I think the explanation is convincing as far I can understand. Thanks. --Hockei (talk) 18:06, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Hockei: and others who are interested. Re Google translations: If your native language is anything other than English but you understand English quite well, always make the translations from the language you don't understand to English, that way the translation will always be better since eng translations are always best maintained. If I make a Google translation from say Portuguese to Swedish, it will come out gibberish, but the same text from Portuguese to English is usually very good. --cart-Talk 18:47, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Karelj (talk) 19:47, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Hockei: @W.carter: @Renato Augusto Martins: @Charlesjsharp: and others...Good thing I speak English. The English translation was almost perfect. Renato's explanation was highly satisfactory for me. Also, over on en.wiki at en:Phyllomedusa there is an animation of this genus of frog walking, as Renato says. I'm happy to support now. PumpkinSky talk 20:10, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- strong PumpkinSky talk 20:10, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Comment Thanks for the very clear explanation. Fine work. Charles (talk) 00:03, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Laitche (talk) 02:41, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Dэя-Бøяg 12:11, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support IMHO this is the one to be beaten so far for POTY 2017 Poco2 16:17, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support ~ Moheen (keep talking) 19:11, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Awesome pic! --SDKmac (talk) 11:15, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Nice! I think it will be a solid candidate for the Picture of the Year award. -- Pofka (talk) 11:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Kruusamägi (talk) 13:28, 16 July 2017 (UTC)