Commons:Valued image candidates/Boris3bulgaria1894.jpg

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Boris3bulgaria1894.jpg

promoted
Image
Nominated by MrPanyGoff (talk) on 2010-11-10 12:46 (UTC)
Scope Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Boris III of Bulgaria
Used in Global usage
Reason Highly valued historical photo of the Bulgarian Tsar with his signature on it. -- MrPanyGoff (talk)
Review
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 Support I totally do agree, the autograph is very relevant --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 13:33, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  •  OpposeSorry, no source, no author. Is really this photograph (1933) in public domain ? I have to oppose until this question is solved. I'm sorry --Jebulon (talk) 17:19, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • The unknown author is something usual for historical images, see these valued photos , , , , so withdraw please your charge in this connection. As for the source, everyone can take a shot in the archives in The Bulgarian National Library or in The Historical Museum and can release it wherever he wants absolutely legally. There is no copyright holder. So could you change your vote?--MrPanyGoff (talk) 19:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Sorry no, I couldn't. The examples you give are clearly in the public domain (except maybe for Gandhi) for time or legal reasons. Some months ago, I submitted here a photo of 1919 (not 1933!) of Josef Pilsudski, which was rejected. After long researches, somebody here founded the name of the photographer, which was active as photographer in the 40's (less than 70 years ago). If not a special case, the limit in "Commons" is 70 years after the certain death of the author. I know that it is hard, but dura lex, sed lex. My question is: please demonstrate me that this photo is, for legal reasons, out of the rule, or prove me that the author is dead for more than 70 years. But I agree, it is a high valuable photo.--Jebulon (talk) 22:46, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • What about this [1] - the official Tzar's family site. I think it is a kind of a public domain. All the newspapers take photos from this site.--MrPanyGoff (talk) 07:17, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • Yes I know this site. It is very interesting, but does not answer to the previous questions...I'm afraid I was not clear enough. If I create a web site (world wide visible) with my family photographs, these photographs ARE NOT in the public domain, and CANNOT be used without permission of the author, which has moral and author's rights on these photos. Did you read this ? Well, at the end, I have the same opinion: all of this is a bit stupid. But it is the rule and the law. One of my best friends is a bulgarian lawyer, I'll ask him soon about the bulgarian law, and about this specific picture (furthermore, I think he knows the (former ?) Tzar Simeon Sakskoburggotski, the son of "yours"). --Jebulon (talk) 11:36, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • Yes, we just waste our time instead of working on something more profitable ;). There was no need of your additional explanation, you know, all we do is to try our best to feint the system :) Maybe there are no alive persons that knows who actually was the photographer that took this shot but ... And if no one finds the real author then what?--MrPanyGoff (talk) 23:11, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support OK for me. Yann (talk) 04:55, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Result: 2 support, 1 oppose =>
promoted. Rastaman3000 (talk) - Visit my new user-page! 17:51, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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